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Old 8th Aug 2002, 02:26
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MANAGP
 
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Angry Why are we above the glide again!

It appears to becoming an ever increasing problem in the UK, that approach controllers are vectoring aircraft to intercept the localiser, and then report established, before being cleared for the approach. This invariably leads to the aircraft being above the glide. It has happened two nights running at two different airports, MAN and BHX. Both we vectored very tight and both ended up above the glideslope, leading to high rates of descent to re-capture, a practise that is acknowledged by the Flight Safety Foundation as potentially dangerous.

If your unit does not allow you to clear an aircraft for an approach on an intercept heading (like most ICAO countries) then please allow sufficient time/distance. Airbuses in particular affected by this as they operate in a 1G world, with gentle descents.

I appreciate that many of you see a tight turn onto the localiser as a time/money saving favour for us, but the reality is that sensible airlines are moving rapidly away from rushed approaches, and wish to be full stable by 1000 feet AAL.

Whinge over!
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