Wow. Its really mind boggling how different the US & European industries are. The P2F, pay for your own TR, get paid peanuts, sitting in the RHS with ~200hrs ...makes me shake my head in disbelief. It doesn't make it less worse; but aren't the incomes higher in Europe? After 5-6 years, won't you be making enough money that the TR you spent 20,000 euros would be no big deal ? Thanks for the enlightenment guys. Really sucks that aviation forums couldn't be more of a source of inspiration and excitement! Alas, that is the current reality.