Hell Man....
Don't worry - we'll soon be gone and you'll be surrounded by the likes of young Gordy's and others who couldn't dream of posting a thread with the word 'woman' in the title!
Me...Young, why thank you. Working for the USFS, you can look me up and find that I am maybe not quite as young as you think I am......
Had a huge response written about values, but in the end, it is just not worth it...your mind is made up.
Whirls et al....for what it is worth, sadly, not all men are created equal....