Originally Posted by Charliethewonderdog
The problems in Aviation stem from the conditions in GA. It's amusing that Pilots are now complaining about conditions at the top when they did nothing for them when they were down the bottom and still dont.
The cancer from GA has slowly spread to The Airlines. With the introduction of cadetships across the board the reliance on GA will further reduce it's importance.
Excellent observation Charlie. I'll go one step further. The mentality since 00/01 in RPT jetland has been "secure the flying, fix the conditions later".
Well, I'm still waiting for those poor souls to have their T&C's improved, It hasn't worked now & it won't work in the future.
Meanwhile operators are claiming "pilot shortage", T&C's conditions decreased. How is that possible in a rational market? Its not, which means one side has acted irrationally (the pilots).
If you are attending this meeting, & hope to improve the situation, understand one thing clearly - Undercutting someone else to secure the flying
ALWAYS results in your own conditions been undermined, not improved. Maybe not this year or next, but inevitably in the future. This has been a demonstrable fact over the last ten years.
Operators in general hold nothing but contempt for pilots. As an operator why would you have respect for a group that falls over themselves to "buy a job" or "buy a bigger endorsement".
Everyone needs to have a good hard look at themselves, you either respect the financial/time/effort/family sacrifices & sell your skills for the right price or expect a career that pays less than a cleaner or checkout operator, only with an enormous debt.
Unions & all the big meetings in the world can only help those that help themselves.
Your future T&C's are within your own hands, no one else.
Each individual must take responsibility for their own actions. Rationalising it away with "if I don't someone else will" has not worked over the last ten years.
It is really that simple, individuals making choices for their long-term benefit, not some short term high. This applies right from the first job in GA, through to the heavies.