Raymond is a lawyer who represents and has given legal advise to many pilots who are feeling discriminated. Mr. Hall is the legal representative at the CHRC for many of those pilots.
Has any one heard of or seen an active lawyer participating on a forum public, private of otherwise while a case is active? I would think not. And it would appear that "mining these sites" is all that is really being done to support Ray's legal case at the CHRC.
Actually those comments are way off base. That 'mining' theme has been flogged around the patch for so long now it's got wheels. It's pretty much the only thing anybody can think of to justify the screaming and yelling. It's just a sour grapes thing that goes round and round and round. Raymond has put forward the most pertinent factual and legally correct information with regard to these issues that you could imagine, and of all things he's the one that gets excluded.
As a gentleman who has been heavily involved in ACPA matters from an executive standpoint his wealth of information on any of these topics is second to none. He answers everybody's questions in a straighforward factual manner and really welcomes anybody who wants information on these topics and is tireless in his contributions. If there's anything that needs more information he always qualifies that. If somebody else's argument is better he always accepts that. He's the real deal, the debater's debater.
There are a lot of hot button topics and they always attract an element of ranting and raving from some individuals whose only means of communication is to really get in there and first of all try to rip a great big strip off the messenger with threats, innuendo, etc., etc. Sometimes the personal attacks get downright banal.
That's why it has become evident that these forums are not really up to the par that you would expect when information of that depth is being offered because there are so many listeners who just simply do not understand any of it, period. And what you can't figure out, well in redneck country, you just shoot it through the head and drive away.
That's why you can't put a big pile of Type A personality pilots in the same room with a guy who has a lot of really complicated legal knowledge. The guys just don't understand any of it so it's like just get the hell out of the way, thanks. Most of them could get in a argument if they were all alone. Pilots are like that. That's why the divorce rate is about 700 times the national average. They just like a good old scrap.
If Raymond is not here the information that's being discussed on the 'hot' topic is generally just wrong, incomplete, or just misleading. There are a lot of guys who want the real correct info. Of all things the guy with the most correct information on it is not here and that's everybody's loss. But the rumor is there will shortly be another forum where anybody can go to get the facts straight as an arrow. This present forum is fun but as the moderators will attest it just gets too randy on these hot topics and it's too much work herding pilots.