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Old 5th August 2010 | 19:31
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IO540
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figuring out any lat/log is error-prone for me
figuring out any lat/log is error-prone for absolutely everybody and is the absolutely last thing which any human should be doing, which is why (e.g.) one plans a route around waypoints which are already in the GPS database, and one never uses user waypoints.

The only occassions I have had to use lat/long since I got my PPL were

- enter a user waypoint for LEAX (in Spain) - since fixed

- enter some user waypoints for a DIY GPS approach (which I then checked by flying it in VMC)

- plot some air show TRA shape on the map, 2x I think so far

The basic point I was making is that you seem to be reading dross which you should just skip.

Let me do an example. I have just done an NRB from EGMD (Lydd) to EGSH (Norwich). Here we go... my comments in RED

Aerodrome Information
Aerodrome (departure) - EGMD (LYDD)
Q) EGTT/QFAAH/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5057N00056E005
B) FROM: 10/03/28 07:30C) TO: 10/10/30 18:00

E) AD HR 0730-1800. EXTENSIONS BY PRIOR ARRANGEMENT THROUGH CUSTOMER
SERVICES TEL 01797 322400.
Good one - opening hours do matter

C1569/10
Aerodrome (destination) - EGSH (NORWICH)
Q) EGTT/QOBCE/IV/M/A/000/999/5241N00117E005
B) FROM: 10/07/30 16:30C) TO: 10/08/19 17:00

E) CRANE OPR DAYLIGHT HR BTN TWY E AND D, MAX HGT 98FT.
GARBAGE
HANGAR STRUCTURE UP TO MAX HGT 38FT. hangar LIT AT NIGHT.

C3584/10
Q) EGTT/QFAHX/IV/BO/A/000/999/5241N00117E005
B) FROM: 10/07/21 12:00C) TO: 10/08/31 12:00

E) INCREASED BIRD ACTIVITY 2NM NORTHEAST DIRECTION FROM RWY 27 THR
GARBAGE - birds are 100% legal to fly in Class G so why notam this?

C3454/10
Q) EGTT/QFAXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5241N00117E005
B) FROM: 10/05/11 11:15C) TO: 10/09/30 20:30

E) INCREASED DEER ACTIVITY ON AD
GARBAGE - if you see a deer on the runway then obviously you go around, so why notam this?

C2458/10
Q) EGTT/QMXXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5241N00117E005
B) FROM: 10/05/12 05:30C) TO: 10/08/10 20:30

E) DUE WIP A NEW TWY LINK REPLACES THE PORTION OF TWY E BTN HOLDING
POINT E1 AND JUNCTION OF TWY D AND TWY E AND WILL BE KNOWN AS TWY
ECHO. THE NEW TWY LINK CL STARTS 15M SOUTH OF HOLDING POINT E1 AND
ADJOINS TWY D AT 319M SOUTH OF HOLDING POINT D1.
TECHNICAL DETAILS AS FOLLOWS:
WIDTH 8.5M SURFACE CONCRETE STRENGTH 8/R/C/W/T
THE TWY IS AVBL DURING THE HOURS OF OFFICIAL DAYLIGHT ONLY.
ALL GARBAGE

C2446/10
Q) EGTT/QMXXX/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5241N00117E005
B) FROM: 10/05/19 07:00C) TO: 10/08/19 17:00

E) WIP BTN TWY E AND D 0700-1700 DAILY, ALL WORK AREAS BARRIERED AND
LIT AT NIGHT. HEL NOT PERMITTED TO OVERFLY THE WORKS SITE.
GARBAGE

C2569/10
Q) EGTT/QSPLT/IV/BO/A/000/999/5241N00117E005
B) FROM: 10/04/29 16:06C) TO: 10/10/29 20:30

E) RWY 09/27 SRA TO 1NM NOT AVBL
GARBAGE - this was a VFR briefing

That's it for Lydd and Norwich... now we get to enroute

C2302/10
En-Route Information
EGTT: LONDON FIR
Q) EGXX/QAFTT/IV/BO/E/000/999/5441N00219W999
B) FROM: 10/07/29 00:01C) TO: 10/08/11 23:59

E) TRIGGER NOTAM/AIP AMDT AIRAC 8/2010 WEF 29 JUL PERM
GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE
AREA INVOLVED IN TRANSFER OF ATS RESPONSIBILITY WI SHANNON FIR
ATS ROUTES L151 L186 M189 M605 N615 N859 N864 Q70 Y47 UL6 UL18 UL151
UL186 UL983 UM89 UM189 UM605 UN615 UN859 UP600 UQ70 UY47 CHANGES.
SIGNIFICANT POINT DESIGNATORS.
NORTHER NORTH SEA, SUMBURGH RADAR SECTOR AMENDED.
AWY N57/B226 REDESIGNATED N864.
AWY A47 REDESIGNATED M605
AWY UP14 REDESIGNATED UM89
UPPER AND LOWER ATS ROUTES (SOUTH AND NORTH SHEET) CHANGES.

B1324/10
Q) EGXX/QCSCS/IV/B/E/000/999/5441N00219W999
B) FROM: 10/07/26 00:00C) TO: 10/10/24 23:59

E) SSR CODE 4574 WILL BE ASSIGNED TO CERTAIN MINISTRY OF
GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE
DEFENCE
ACFT PERFORMING FLYING TRAINING AND OPS OUTSIDE OF CONTROLLED
AIRSPACE (EITHER IN FORMATION OR AS SINGLE ACFT) AND NOT RECEIVING
AN AIR TRAFFIC SERVICE. THE CODE WILL BE UNVALIDATED AND
UNVERIFIED. OPS CTC 01264 784456.
(this was the General Hooton one but he must have got promoted to Rear Admiral as a result of the heavy recruitment into the Services from the GA pilot population - well done old chap)
AUS 10-07-0757.

B1736/10
Q) EGXX/QXXXX/IV/M/E/000/100/5441N00219W999
B) FROM: 10/07/29 15:23C) TO: PERM

E) THERE IS AN ERROR IN THE ATOTN (AIR TRAFFIC OPR TEL NETWORK)
DIRECTORY. LONDON MIL LJAO (LONDON JOINT AREA ORGANISATION) NUMBERS
GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE
DO NOT BEGIN WITH 7590. LONDON MIL LJAO NUMBERS BEGIN
7500, CONSOLE NUMBERS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
LJAO NORTH SUPERVISOR 2408
LJAO NORTH EAST 5291
LJAO EAST 5292
LJAO NORTH WEST 5299
LJAO SOUTH SUPERVISOR 2417
LJAO CENTRAL 5298
LJAO WEST 5296
LJAO SOUTH WEST 5296
LJAO SOUTH EAST 5997
LJAO OVERLOAD 1 5294
LJAO OVERLOAD 2 5293

U2179/10
Q) EGXX/QNVTT/IV/BO/E/000/999/5441N00219W999
B) FROM: 10/01/19 11:30C) TO: 10/11/24 13:30

E) TRIGGER NOTAM. NAV AID OUTAGES JAN-DEC 2010. SUP 043/2009 REFERS
GARBAGE - this was a VFR briefing

B0002/10
Q) EGXX/QCSCS/IV/B/E/000/999/5441N00219W999
B) FROM: 10/07/26 00:00C) TO: 10/10/24 23:59

E) SSR CODE 7013 WILL BE ASSIGNED TO CERTAIN MINISTRY OF DEFENCE
GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE
ACFT PERFORMING FLYING TRAINING AND OPS OUTSIDE OF CONTROLLED
AIRSPACE (EITHER IN FORMATION OR AS SINGLE ACFT) AND NOT RECEIVING
AN AIR TRAFFIC SERVICE. THE CODE WILL BE UNVALIDATED AND UNVERIFIED.
OPS CTC 01407 766623. AUS 10-07-0757 AS 2.

B1735/10
Q) EGTT/QSEAH/IV/B/E/000/065/5327N00018W250
B) FROM: 10/06/07 10:40C) TO: PERM

E) AMEND ANGLIA RADAR OPR HR TO:
0630-2200 DAILY WINTER (SUMMER 1HR EARLIER)
AIP ENR 1-15-1 REFERS
Where is Anglia Radar?

B1248/10
Q) EGTT/QAFXX/IV/NBO/E/000/999/5300N00040E080
B) FROM: 10/07/29 00:01C) TO: 10/08/12 23:59

E) LONDON MIL EAST WILL SPLIT TO FORM 2 NEW SECTORS,
GARBAGE
LONDON JOINT AREA
ORGANISATION (LJAO) EAST AND LJAO NORTH EAST. FOR SECTOR BOUNDARIES
SEE EN ROUTE CHARTS. LJAO EAST INITIAL CONTACT FREQ (ICF) ARE
259.600MHZ AND 135.275MHZ AND SSR MODE 3/A ALLOCATIONS 6040-6057.
LJAO NORTH EAST ICF ARE 275.500MHZ AND 135.075MHZ AND SSR MODE 3/A
ALLOCATIONS 6060-6077. SSR MODE 3/A ALLOCATIONS 6101-6107 AND
6140-6147 REMAIN HELD BY LONDON MIL FOR OVERLOAD USE.

U2125/10
Q) EGTT/QAZCD/IV/NBO/E/000/030/5231N00125E005
B) FROM: 10/07/22 09:56C) TO: 10/12/31 23:59

E) SEETHING ATZ. FOR THE PURPOSE OF RULE 45 OF THE RULES OF THE AIR
REGULATIONS 2007 THE SEETHING ATZ IS INDEFINITELY SUSPENDED.
GARBAGE (practically speaking)

B1715/10
Nav Warnings
EGTT: LONDON FIR
Q) EGXX/QWWXX/IV/NBO/W/000/999/5441N00219W999
B) FROM: 10/05/21 12:00C) TO: 10/08/15 23:59

E) UK VOLCANIC ASH NOTAM POLICY. FROM 1005181200
GARBAGE GARBAGEGARBAGE GARBAGE
VOLCANIC ASH NOTAM
DEFINE TWO AREAS FOR THE APPROPRIATE FIR/UIRS. ONE AREA EQUATES TO
THE GREY AREA DEPICTED ON THE VOLCANIC ASH CONCENTRATION CHARTS
(VACC) AND IS REFERRED TO AS A TIME-LIMITED ZONE (TLZ). FLIGHT WI THE
TLZ WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THOSE OPERATORS WHO HAVE AGREEMENT FROM
THEIR ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER (OEM). OPERATORS WITHOUT SUCH
AN AGREEMENT MUST TREAT THE TLZ AS A NO FLY ZONE. THE OTHER AREA IS A
NO-FLY ZONE (NFZ)(ICAO DEFINITION: AREAS OF HIGH CONTAMINATION) THAT
EQUATES TO THE BLACK AREA ON THE VACC. IN ADDN THERE ARE VOLUMES OF
AIRSPACE WHERE ADDITIONAL PROCEDURES MAY APPLY (ENHANCED PROCEDURE
ZONES) (EPZ) (ICAO DEFINITION: AREAS OF LOW CONTAMINATION). THE
DIMENSIONS OF THE NFZ TLZ AND EPZ ARE AVBL FM THE VAAC AT
HTTP://WWW.METOFFICE.GOV.UK (SEARCH FOR LONDON VAAC-ISSUED GRAPHICS
LINK). UK ACFT OPR CERTIFICATE (AOC) HOLDERS PLANNING TO OPR WI AN
EPZ OR A TLZ SHOULD COMPLY WITH THE LATEST FLT OPS DIVISION COM
(FODCOM) DOCUMENTS, AVBL AT HTTP://WWW.CAA.CO.UK (SEARCH FOR: FODCOMS
PUBLICATIONS AND FODCOMS FOR GENERAL AVIATION). ALL NON-UK AOC
HOLDERS PLANNING TO OPR WI THE EPZ OR A TLZ SHOULD SATISFY THEMSELVES
THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO OPERATE SAFELY. OPERATORS SHOULD NOTE THAT WHEN
NFZ/TLZ ARE ESTABLISHED SEPARATE NOTAM FOR THE TLZ AND NFZ WILL BE
ISSUED. ONE NOTAM WILL DEFINE THE TLZ THE OTHER NOTAM WILL DEFINE THE
NFZ. BOTH NOTAM MAY CONTAIN UP TO 3 TLZ/NFZ FOR EACH FLIGHT LEVEL
BLOCK. BOTH NOTAM WILL CROSS-REFER TO THE OTHER ENSURING OPERATORS
HAVE THE DIMENSIONS OF BOTH THE TLZ AND NFZ.

LOWER: SFC
UPPER: UNL
H1645/10
Q) EGTT/QWCLW/IV/M/W/000/005/5230N00119E001
B) FROM: 10/08/02 20:00C) TO: 10/08/06 04:00

E) CAPTIVE UNMANNED HELIUM BALLOON AT 5230N 00119E (NEAR
GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE

You will get prosecuted for hitting this because the only way to hit it is to fly below 500ft
HEMPNALL,
NORFOLK). BALLOON WILL BE LIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH RULE 52 OF RULES OF
THE AIR REGULATIONS 2007. ON-SITE CTC, TEL 07713 148348.
10-08-0097/AS 5.

LOWER: SFC
UPPER: 500FT AMSL
SCHEDULE: SS-SR
H3339/10
Q) EGTT/QWGLW/IV/M/W/000/065/5228N00109E010
B) FROM: 10/07/31 00:00C) TO: 10/08/08 23:59

E) GLIDING RALLY, INTENSE ACTIVITY WI 10NM RADIUS 5228N 00109E
(TIBENHAM AD, NORFOLK). AUS 10-07-0740/AS 2.
So, avoid Tibenham

LOWER: SFC
UPPER: 6200FT AMSL
SCHEDULE: HJ
H3214/10
Q) EGTT/QWZLW/IV/M/W/000/065/5228N00109E002
B) FROM: 10/07/31 00:00C) TO: 10/08/08 23:59

E) LARGE MODEL ACFT FLYING. ACTIVITY WI 2NM RADIUS 5228N 00109E
(TIBENHAM AD). 10-07-0740/AS 2.
GARBAGE

LOWER: SFC
UPPER: 6200FT AMSL
SCHEDULE: HJ

Anyway I am sure you get my drift. That notam took me 37 seconds to read, and decide there is nothing of relevance except avoiding Tibenham by a few miles at least (better still fly high; extremely few microlight pilots fly above 2000ft).

Re opening hours I always phone the place anyway.
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