slast You have summed up the situation perfectly. I spent 25 years flying as an Engineer Officer on B707s & B747s and observed the CC empire evolve as you describe. IMO the BASSA hardliners and all the CSDs should go, and the CC empire needs to be brought into the rest of BA. I believe WW has the balls to do it and the sooner the better for all of us, pax and ex crew.