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Old 1st Aug 2002, 03:17
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SaturnV
 
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wsherif1, you repeatedly assert that a witness saw AA587 with the right wing perpindicular to the ground. The NTSB has logged 349 witness accounts, and has summarized these as follows:

"The Witness Group has received 349 accounts from eyewitnesses, either through direct interviews or through written statements. An initial summary of those statements follows:

· 52% specifically reported seeing a fire while the plane was in the air, with the fuselage being the most often cited location (22%). Other areas cited as a fire location were the left engine, the right engine or an unspecified engine, and the left wing, the right wing or an unspecified wing.
· 8% specifically reported seeing an explosion.
· 20% specifically reported seeing no fire at all.
· 22% reported observing smoke; 20% reported no smoke.
· 18% reported observing the airplane in a right turn; another 18% reported observing the airplane in a left turn.
· 13% observed the airplane "wobbling," dipping" or in "side to side" motion.
· 74% observed the airplane descend.
· 57% reported seeing "something" separate from the airplane; 13% reported observing the right wing, left wing or an undefined wing separate; 9% specifically reported observing no parts separate."

It would seem from the great variance in these accounts that one could find support for an assertion that the right wing was perpindicular, the left wing was perpindicular, or the plane was in a horizontally level descent.

I also don't think you advance your argument by insisting that SilkAir and EgyptAir 990 were caused by wake turbulence. Surely you don't believe that wake turbulence induced a sequential disconnection of SilkAir's FDR and CVR while the plane was in cruise. EgyptAir 990 crashed at about 1:50AM EST, a time of light North Atlantic traffic in that sector, as the ATC transcript indicates. Looking at the FDR tabular data sets, it would seem that the EgyptAir flight anomaly you are referring to is a very brief -0.53 roll several seconds before the co-pilot is believed to say 'control it'. Yet this same degree of roll also briefly occurred at 01:43:28 EST, without comment or concern. (The captain leaves closing the cockpit door at 01:48:22; 01:48:24 roll of -0.53; 01:48:27 roll of -0.35; 01:48:30 'control it'; 01:48:30, roll of -0.18; 01:48:40, the first of the "I rely on God" statements by Bahouty; 01:48:40, roll of 0.00. The AoA, pitch, and roll values do become anomalous startring at 01:49:40; at 01:50:04, pitch of -22.50, roll of -10.72; the captain re-enters the cockpit at 01:50:07, asking "what's happening? what's happening?"
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