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Old 6th Jul 2010, 22:57
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No I admit there are no guarantees in a job or ''career''.

However - what crew are worried about is will BA DELIBERATELY take NRT, HKG, GVA, ZRH, BRU and similar good earning routes in the future???

Look, a 6 hour GVA there and back that has a turnaround in GVA at 1800 earns between £60-£70 in allowances.
Mixed Fleet would earn £14.40!
Some routes are not mnuch different in allowances particularly on shorthaul or the India/African/and some US routes.

If Mixed Fleet is all about cost savings - what would be the point in creating a new fleet to save money WHEN the routes that transfer across earn similar or are not much less.

WW even recently said himself in an interview about SYD not being profitable enough! And Mixed Fleet will help with this. Why? Because of the allowances of crew. Or so I have read, will have to try and find it again!

So, whilst say in your example Colonel White, NRT was dropped as a route - there is nothing that could be done about that! But basically we would not have a problem with that because they are not taking our work to be given to ''cheaper crew''. I can see where you are coming from, though!

It's just easy for people to come on here and say ''what are crew worried about'' blah blah, but it's more than a crew member less on flights! This Mixed Fleet is a lot more than other departments have been asked for - it does pose a threat.

Plus, Mixed Fleet is very poor pay. Nothing we can really do - it is what they want to pay - but I am sorry, it is a culture in society today - a race to the bottom! Working it out it would be less than friends working for airlines like EasyJet - please remember that a studio flat in London is often around the £800 mark. A study on the BBC has actually recently stated that wages in the UK are not enough and minimum wage should be more... isn't it a good thing we are well paid and shouldn't we be the benchmark? BA are not going to go bust - if they were wouldn't they need an immediate saving of money not one that will save money over years... also the share bonuses etc for the top could be less (I am not a socialist btw!)

Maybe if BASSA/UNITE had negotiated better in the past BA wouldn't need to introduce Mixed Fleet - BUT having said that, in some ways it is good we have a strong union, maybe other people who say ''we are so lucky'' should just remember why maybe?

I know I have stated BA has been reasonable in the past - and for a lot of the part they have, but I don't know if the bigger picture is more evident to see... I can see your point of view and I do accept there is no guarantees, but I don't want to be signing or accepting an offer that willingly is akin to signing our careers away!
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