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Just for my tuppence I emphasise to students that the problem with turning back isn't just the loss of height, but the chance of disorientation and low level downwind turn effects. We had one here a few weeks ago turned back, stalled, went in nose first, the aircraft (an Eagle 150) broke in two; occupants survived but the instructor had horrific injuries.