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Old 29th Jun 2010, 20:50
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Mike Cross
 
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The inaccuracy is in
The answer to your original question is slightly complicated but in essance is..No LAA permit aircraft are cleared for reward.So for you to charge for tuition it has to be on a C ofA which can be easa or BGA.
There is however a loop hole that basically allows owners to train in their own permit aircraft provided no reward changes hands.Thats a slight simplification but should answer your question
Go read AIC W071 above. Remunerated flying training is possible in a permit aircraft that is solely owned.

1 The basic position
1.1 Article 157(1) of the Air Navigation Order (ANO) requires that, when valuable consideration1* is given or promised in respect of a
flight, the flight will be deemed to be for the purposes of aerial work. Part 3 of the ANO (Airworthiness) requires that aircraft used for aerial
work purposes must be maintained to a higher airworthiness standard than is normally required for private flights.
1.2 Article 157(2), however, allows valuable consideration to be given for the services of a pilot and provided that it is the only form of
valuable consideration being given in respect of the flight will be deemed to be private for airworthiness purposes and therefore the aircraft
need only be maintained to an airworthiness standard applicable to private flight.
1.3 This means that if a person has the use of an aircraft without needing to pay anyone for it, he can pay for the services of a pilot,
perhaps including flying instruction, even though the aircraft is only maintained to a standard applicable to a private flight.
1.4 If an instructor provides his services free of charge and no valuable consideration is being given or promised, the flight is private.
If the flight is private it can legally take place in a permit aircraft.

The applicable legal bit is Art 157(2) of the ANO.

Ifitaint has provided you with a link to an LAA document that says
1.
An owner may receive remunerated (or un-remunerated) flight training in his own LAA aircraft provided he is a ‘sole’ owner and not part of a group ownership.
(Direct family members of the owner’s immediate family are also acceptable).

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