enemymig is about right with the tower numbers. i don't know how many conversions are going on at the moment. Still seem to be recruiting experienced people, mainly ex-ASA, for tower and approach. None for enroute for about 12 months. pass rate? how long is a piece of string? i've seen 2 from 8 and 10 from 12. course numbers for enroute abinitio are normally 8-12, conversion to tower and approach as they can be fitted in. Those who put in the work have a chance. as anyone who has been around for awhile knows, nothing is guaranteed in this job, we're all one stuff-up away from unemployment, those who don't put in the extra effort.....