Originally Posted by gums
Fer chrissakes, point the plane best you can using the ADI or stby gyro and keep power where it would normally be. NO AUTOPILOT in turbulence. Let the jet fly as it was designed to and she'll prolly do just fine
Originally Posted by bearfoil
Can't fly pitch and power w/o AH and throttles, though. The AH is an option, only luddites would want one.
What do you mean by that, Bearfoil, in response to gums? (See also Smilin' Ed's comment on power/attitude flying).
I do not understand the A330 cockpit and AFCS degraded modes, but there are some basics that seem to me applicable regardless of aircraft model.
As I have read this thread, I kept getting the idea in the back of my head that, with AirSpeed signal lost due to iced pitot tubes (let's call that a necessary assumption for the moment) one could maintain Straight and level within the air mass with power (roughly what you'd had set just a moment ago) attitude (nose and wing) , and a reference to VSI (basically, a partial panel scan/crosscheck).
Granted, VSI is a static instrument, so if static ports are also iced up my idea is at least partly dead in the water, particularly if you ride the downdraft inside a turbulent airmass all the way down to the ocean ...
But why did you imply that it would not work?
I have understood that were they at stall already, unwittingly, that maintaining power and attitude would not do much to get out of a stall.
EDIT: sorry, that was some weird cut and paste for quoting, have tried to clean it up.