Originally Posted by
BOAC
When to shout?
Spot on! There's a system with task(mission) oriented crews and mission management/asessment/control by ATC, we can call it military/Soviet style, but it works. Once you take out the ATC responsibility and authority out, the system loses one leg and all breaks down. ATC knows when to stop an approach but as this is not their authorisation under "civil/foreign" rules any longer they keep quiet too late.
Ironically, if the ATC did excercise the mil style authority (forbidding the start of the approach because of sub-minima weather, commanding a go-around once below safe profile) and the crew would have be ready to accept such, the safety layer would work.
Instead, we have landing-minded pilot with some peer pressure and less than 100% authority (sub-ordination) with no last line of defence against his errors, both unseen and intentional. Needless to say, the apparent scud-run was poorly planned, miserably executed and surely very illegal under Polish AF own procedures in first place.
Yours,
FD (the un-real)