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Old 2nd Jun 2010, 08:15
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On Polish forum former military PAR ATC commented:

Pracowałem ileś lat temu jako KSL (kierownik systemu ladowania) i na podstawie własnych wyliczeń a także Kolegi Witka Z. wychodzi mi na typowego "szczura" pod chmury licząc, że podstawa nie będzie niższa niz 20-30m.

Several years ago I worked as KSL (Landing System Manager) and on the basis of my own calculations and those of colleague Z. Witek it comes to me that they did the typical "rat" under the clouds, hoping that the base not be less than 20-30m.


The "rat" landing can be translated to "scud running".

He probably knows, what he is talking about,

He further comments:

I wrote earlier (about the PF) "he heard something, maybe he saw it, when he flew as a navigator, but he never performed it himself." He "may" do such a manoeuvre only at the airport where he knows the "furniture". He tried and it didn't work out.

In Polish pilots jargon "furniture" are landmarks, buildings, terrain shape and obstacles around the airfield.
You very often fly your pattern on "furniture",
instead of instruments, doing turns and final on certain "furniture" elements.

One more proof, how bad the training was, allowing pilots to get away with
such landings during their career...
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