Thomas coupling
Your poor customers are going away thinking a slight judder and they are in IVRS!!!
Firstly I don't have customers anymore--tis a while since I taught students or customers.
Gordy - absolute rubbish! You can't demonstrate Incipient VRS without allowing it to show the pilot all the feedback effects [Which I hope we all are aware of].
Yes I can, go back and read my post---I said recover from "initial indications"...I agree you will lose some altitude in the deceleration. And no the first shudder is not VRS but shortly after when one feels the sudden drop... In my line of current work, I do not have the luxury of altitude...therefore, as I stated, I want to make sure the pilots I work with recognize those first indications, hence we demonstrate it the way we do.
This will cost atleast 500-1000' height loss! Slowing down inaccurately in preparation for the demo could cost you 100', never mind recovering before this amount of height loss
My whole point is that there is no need to get full blown VRS unless you are a test pilot. Why not teach people to recognize the onset and adjust the cyclic accordingly. Hopefully people will never get full blown VRS---they should have corrected long before.
Go out and try this.... Set up, just as I explained before, and then upon the shudder and "tail drop", ease the cyclic forward, pause, ease it back again---repeat a few times and you can get in and out of early VRS quite easily and painlessly. Remember--I am only teaching people to recognize the first symptoms so they can take action. I have no desire to lose 1'000 of altitude demonstrating VRS---leave that to Shawn and Nick.