These discussions seem to show a mindset among some pilots that would appear to try and justify minimum level competence in far to many airlines to the point many pilots will go out of their way to justify almost any incident / accident that points to a lack of skills and or poor decision making in two crew airplanes.
There is an ongoing very toxic discussion on a Canadian forum that is disturbing to see in a group of pilots who are flying the public around for a major airline, the depth of denial by some of these pilots is as I said, disturbing to say the least.
Maybe the time has come for me to quit reading this stuff now that I am retired?