radeng, it was I who made that list and happy for it to be copied. However, I had prefaced that list with, "Post War only" that was to simplify matters. Technically, the company dates from 1929, which is why it is classed (by some of us) as an old company. Some folks think it is 'young' from it's time of being a modern plc, but it still has many folks from earlier incarnations and those aspects have been discussed in various threads.