This is ridiculous, some of us and our companies accept that the cabin crew have a role beyond serving lunch. The Saudi incident was caused by the flight deck, the cabin crew could have saved many lives if the pilots had operated correctly and if the procedures permitted them. Don't quibble over whether the aircraft is moving or has only got a 'tailpipe' fire, the cabin crew are usually better placed to assess the situation and advise the pilots or react as they see fit. After all the pilots could be incapacitated, un aware or just 'switched off'.