Walder
Please only share facts – not guesses! Facts are what you have seen or heard on first hand!
Most have not seen anything, therefore the facts are almost non existent.
Perhaps you should look at the name of this forum again to re-acquaint yourself with its purpose.
Educated guesses by qualified individuals are of value and may help to shed some light to those of us who haven't peddled one of the big machines but still are interested in what might have led to the tragic outcome.
There is a place for this and the pious exhortations by some will do nothing to stop it.