WW, you might be a little harsh on his character. He did pass "selection" and served with the SBS - that takes a lot of determination, conviction and courage.
I'm not sure why I wrote 'either'. I don't doubt his pre-political abilities. Post-conversion I rank him as no better than the other Liberal wishy-washy thinkers - speaking as the son of a retired LD councillor. Terribly nice people without a clue how to actually
do anything. Discuss? Yes. Do? No. Maybe that's changed over the last few days though. We'll see.