Hmm why does our pilots association waste our valuable resources fighting battles we cannot win? We have quite a long track record of doing so. I remember one of our VP’s saying 'a good contract is one in which no one is happy'. Let’s get all the parties together and compromise. Probably half of the pilots that wish to continue only do so because they don’t like being told they have to retire. After a few years they happily retire on their own terms. Those that try to go full term only enrich the pension plan with their premature deaths in which case we all benefit. So it a rest and move on, its going to happen regardless of the venting on this forum.