Thanks DD I think!!!!!Agree with you though have flown with many a great loadmaster, worth their salt for sure......GE,s would trust them with anything on the aircraft but making tea not so sure about that, have you seen where their teaspoons have been. Seriously you could probably fly a ferry flight with one pilot but who would want too. 411A you seem to place a lot of trust in your FE's you used to say that you did all the work and would trust no-one.