Schemes have changed!
NSF said "Those that were 'full sponsorship' were exactly the same sort of people who won their way onto CTC schemes."
Wouldn't all businesses love their paying "customers" to believe that they have won something!
Yes of course self sponsored cadets have joined all sorts of airlines and been trained by former BA TRI/TREs but the low houred pilot schemes set up by Airlines such as Britannia, BM, Lufthansa and BA themselves were a far cry from those marketed by certain schools.
The whole point of this thread is the cost burden being put upon youngsters (bank of mum and dad, loans etc) by P2F and other zero to hero schools claiming you too can be the same as that Flag carrier shiny jet pilot in their advertising. And having the gall to say that they are the best in the business when their own type rating exams have come under CAA scrutiny.
Knowing cadets who trained with CTC and others who did BA's own system, it is very clear the latter offered far greater job security. Even the later BA "part sponsored" routes did not demand payment for type ratings or Line Training up front. BA decided who they wanted and it was not based upon the ability to PAY huge sums up front.
I am not against low houred pilots I am against get rich quick schemes that leave them hung and dry in debt and bored of a to b auto pilot flying by the time they are 30.