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Old 22nd Apr 2010, 12:34
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Dick Smith
 
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Jet , climbing into E in VMC would not be a problem in Canada and the USA.

This is because even if you have submitted an IFR plan you are not considered IFR until you have been given an IFR clearance.

The ATC's want you to climb to a high level receiving a traffic information service(just as our Airline pilots now receive in G) so their separation job is easier.
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