In other countries, you can even be given your IFR transponder code, but you are not considered IFR until you actually have the clearance
But we arent in other countries.
If you file your flight plan as just IFR, then you are IFR. If you want to start off VFR and change to IFR then file as such and you will be treated as VFR until IFR clearance available. Simple.
Im not sure you understand e or G, Dick.Departing IFR in G is not even remotely the same as departing VFR with IFR pick-up.
The reason you are expressly forbidden from climbing in G without a clearance in VMC is because unbelievably stubborn
You cant be expressly forbidden from climbing in
G, you arent subject to a clearnace.
controlled airspace when IMC exists and as uncontrolled airspace when VMC exists
Please show me where in the rules & regs it says this.
I do wonder Dick, how you manage not to answer any questions that are asked you that are true & correct that dont support your world view - probably because they are just that - they prove what you say is false. Yet you happily pick apart statements people make that dont stroke your ego by twisting what they say & misinterpreting the point they are making.