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Old 10th April 2010 | 20:50
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Zippy Monster
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Originally Posted by NSF
No one is saying they like the current FO deal - it is, however, NOT pay-to-fly and you seem unable to grasp that.
...Indeed, like many others who contribute to these forums banging on about "P2F", without knowing the ins-and-outs of the CTC FlexiCrew deal for the cadets, without giving much thought to what that recently clumsily-coined "P2F" term actually means, or without really knowing what they are talking about.

The CTC Cadets have paid for their training through the CTC programme, just like many others from years gone by who were given full-time contracts in the various associated airlines (including EZY). Now, instead, they are being asked to contribute towards the Airbus TR (effectively a semi-SSTR, if you like), when in the past it was fully subsidised. Once completed, they are employed as a contractor through CTC and PAID for their work. Yes, the pay is !!!!!e and the conditions are crap, but they are being paid. Essentially it's the same as Ryanair have been doing to low-houred guys with Brookfield for the last few years, so why the sudden incrimination of the ex-CTC guys at EZY when it had become a pretty much accepted practice on the blue-and-yellow side?

Nobody likes to see anyone paying to be in the right-hand seat, I deplore it as much as the next person, but I am sick to death of hearing the CTC Cadets, who are being PAID, tarred with the same brush as people who are PAYING. Sadly, it seems no matter how many times one points out this small technicality, it is drowned out by the masses of indignant people waving their arms decrying the advent of "P2F, P2F!!!" in an almost zombie-like fashion. So there is nothing else to do other than echo NSF's sentiments when he says to the likes of GW...

Originally Posted by NSF
you are simply talking utter rubbish.
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