NAS rears its head again

[ARFOR]

Leadsled

I have not quoted publicly available information, because it is exactly that, publicly available

Not to this public. Why [if it were real] would you not post it in support of your argument

Mr Smith

I know the standard answer … our Controllers say that they can do both jobs – ie. the D airspace below and huge amounts of C above - without any problems at all

As has been stated, where is the incident data that suggests Australian D+C terminal tower operations are problematic?

I put to you this question:-

The C, D or E airspace [above A045] below huge amounts of 'en-route' C and or E above. Can controllers do both en-route and terminal area without any problems at all?

Is that what you are saying? Everyone would know these answers if:-

Risk analysis, CBA and proper process was followed to find out.

The US system? ... No it is not, not without dedicated approach and departures controllers [TRACON equivalent]

mjbow2

OK, lets have the list of these Class D airports, then we will cross reference them against the FAA ATADS database for US Part 139 Class 1 airports licenced for Scheduled Air Carrier [>30pax seat capacity]

Remember like for like comparisons mjbow

Here is a hint, here is the list of the top 100 [in order top to bottom] Scheduled Air Carrier moves for 2008 at Part 139 Class 1 airports in the US and Australia combined [the same classification Australian Regional Towered Airports would hold in the US]

ATL, ORD, DFW, DEN, LAX, PHX, LAS, JFK, CLT, SEA, MIA, MCO, EWR, MSP, YSSY, SFO, PHL, IAH, DTW, MEM, LGA, BWI, YMML, FLL, BOS, MDW, IAD, DCA, SLC, TPA, SAN, YBBN, PDX, HNL, OAK, STL, MCI, ANC, SJC, IND, SAT, HOU, YPPH, AUS, SMF, BNA, SDF, SJU, DAL, PIT, SNA, MSY, RDU, CVG, YPAD, ABQ, ONT, CLE, RSW, ORF, MKE, BDL, JAX, PBI, RNO, BUR, CMH, BUF, YBCS, PVD, BOI, YSCB, GEG, TUS, ELP, OMA, OGG, MHT, BHM, OKC, YBCG, YPDN, RIC, TUL, KOA, LGB, YBTL, ROC, ALB, LIT, ISP, COS, CAK, LIH, DAY, SYR, CHS, GUM, FAT, GSO, SAV

You know how many of those are not Class B or C airspace? 4 and none of those 4 are on the 'continental' United States.

Shall we look at the other US class B and C airspace airport locations compared with Australian Regional Towered Airports?