Oceanpotion, sounds like they would fit right in with a large number of the "pay to fly" and "who needs an F/O ? " bunch runing various outfits these days, belive me piss poor ethics are not confined to any one outfit or part of the globe, Im the first to admit that my generation had the best of it, we didnt go giving these folks openings by trying to shaft the other pilots during mergers, nor did we hesitate to "stop the props" when needed, each generation has to learn this stuff again it seems, I makes we want to puke when I see our hard won gains pissed away by so many who came behind us,{ and this includes your part of the world by the way} end of rant!