Sticking to the subject in hand. We gave up the Jags, we gave up the Shars (which you supported) all of which felt painful at the time but the reality is we haven't been invaded We are buying 160 of the things. In business the term it's called cascading. You flog the old stuff while someone still wants to buy it at a decent price, then buy something new. if that's deranged in your book then I can live with that because that's what happens in the real world. What else would you offer up when the axe man comes?