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Old 27th Mar 2010, 23:20
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OZBUSDRIVER
 
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Yep, it all helps understand how we were all robbed of a system that actually worked for our limited resources and sparse polulation.

Smith, you have a mental block with Class E. If there is no radar or radar like surveillence, you cannot guarantee separation for anyone and certainly not IFR. In the clag you have a chance, in CAVOK you want IFR to practice see and avoid because of conflicts with VFR trundling through CONTROLLED AIRSPACE unannounced.

Everything else about NAS from FAA D to CTAF is just procedure and can be ..begrudgingly for some...relearned. However, Class E is inherantly DANGEROUS. You are mixing non-controlled traffic with controlled traffic IN THE BLIND! Until surveillence is put in place AND VFR is required to REPORT a position regardless of receiving a service is the day Class E will be safer.

The experiment with FAA D and adjoining Class E...what are you guys thinking! We may as well have our old D and adjoining class C and be safer in the procedure.

Smith your previous example. the B200 will be in conflict with a non-controlled aircraft who is UNKNOWN to the tower, in your words he is too far away to see. Depending how big the envelope of Tower controlled Class E is opposed to the Class E supplied by BN, your B200 could be just changing frequency as the conflict occurs...getting messy out there...Once again, change for change sake with changes to the changes to attempt to make it as safe as possible.

The REAL OLD SYSTEM was that VFR if was going more than 50nm would have had a plan and would have reported to the PTH FS with an estimate for their destination. The B200 would have already be talking to FS from when they popped out of class C over 100nm away with an estimate for PTH. there is no tower because the local traffic practices the basic calls and is also on the same frequency as FS..guess what, they are known too..That old dirt road with its "Drive on the Left" rules still stands up today with passing DTI

The trick is not actually SEEING the traffic, its knowing the traffic. If you know there is traffic you will see it before there is a problem. What's it called...oh yes...ALLERTED SEE AND AVOID

From a previous forum. Dick, YOU'RE WRONG!
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