Originally Posted by
nortwinds
There were significant cultural and professional differences in their background which had led to disagreement and an escalating dispute including the captain pulling the CVR to talk off the record. This accords well with the views that copilots have to learn/be taught on the job. There was background stress on both pilots, but not enough to kill for.
On the fatal flight the captain again pulled the CVR and was presumably therefore the first person to speak, probably saying something that to him was innocuous. Somehow that rapidly lead to one of the pilots over-reacting for the split second that turned everything into unrecoverable disaster.
Nortwinds, it's quite obvious that you have
not read the official report released by the NTSC (Indonesian investigation team). What you're suggesting here is that there was some conflict between the Captain and F/O which resulted in argument and possibly fight in the cockpit leading to a loss of control of the aircraft.
If you'd like to take a read of the official NTSC report as released by the Indonesian DGCA,
here it is for you to download. Go to section
2.12 General Human Performance Issues
on page 40 of the report where the investigators analysed the relationship between the Captain and the F/O. I'll quote the relevant paragraph here for you if you have difficulty in downloading the NTSC report.
2.12 General Human Performance Issues
This section analyses the general human performance issues such as medical, professional qualification, training, fatigue, impairment, improper in-flight management, etc.
The relationship between the PIC and the F/O was examined. There were no reports of any conflict or difficulties between the pilots prior to the occurrence and before the day of the crash. Based on the available recorded data of the CVR, there was no evidence of any conflict or difficulties between the pilots during the approach and landing into Jakarta, on the ground at Jakarta, and during the accident flight. The infrequent non-flight related conversations between the pilots were also cordial. It was concluded that the investigation did not find any evidence of difficulties in the relationship between the two pilots either during or before the accident flight.
In one of your earlier posts, Nortwinds, you also suggested that the F/O was facing a huge financial debt from his flight training. Again, this is contrary to the findings of the official NTSC report. This is what the NTSC investigation had to say about the F/O's financial situation from section 2.14, page 42.
2.14 Specific Human Factors Issues
In this section, the specific, personal, financial backgrounds and recent behaviour of the PIC and the F/O are examined.
2.14.2 First Officer (F/O)
The investigation into the F/O's personal and professional history revealed no unusual issues. No records of incidents or unusual events were found, and no career setbacks or difficulties were experienced. Financial records showed no evidence of financial problems. Interviews with family, close friends and relations seem to indicate that the F/O was a well-balanced and well-adjusted person, and keen on his job, and planning to advance his a flying career. There were no reports on recent changes in his behaviour.
May I suggest to you Nortwinds, that you at least make an attempt to read the official NTSC report as well as the one released by the NTSB before you come up with any more ridiculous hypothesis.
