Stepwilk, having admitted my guilt at being "boring" (a post which has been deleted by the good old Mods) I must still take exception at your comment
You for example, ROG, are simply retelling "when I was a kid" tales that we've already heard 50 times.
You don't know me nor my kids and those "tales" have not appeared on line before. Perhaps it is symptomatic of your confused thinking with regard debate. It matters not one hoot whether the same point is raised a thousand times, and whilst it may be boring to some, it remains a vital and potent aspect of any exchange of views. What is more surprising is that you seem to agree with the argument that the whole affair was no more than an ill judged bit of fun, but you wish to strangle the possibly different opinions of others. I also think such views are ill considered at best and downright ridiculous at worst, but I still wish to hear them and be prepared to be won over and change my opinions.
Rottenray, thanks for the support.