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Old 11th Mar 2010, 06:49
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The first class of airspace that meets the design separation assurance standards, and which, by definition, proceeding beyond (ie C instead of E) provides no additional benefit for the additional CNS/ATM resources and other associated costs expended ---- in other words, "economic waste".
Correct!

That is the fundamental issue you and Mr Smith refuse to acknoledge, that is:-

Australian Class C, and 'full' ICAO Class D and D/C [by a tower/approach combined controller] are operated 'efficiently', when compared to US practice [where similar levels of RPT traffic with a pax seat capacity >30] at airports with similar numbers that are class C

WHY?

Lets spell it out so there are NO misunderstandings:-

1. Australian Class D and D/C towers service similar numbers of 'large RPT' aircraft as many of the US class C TMA serviced airports
2. Australian Class D and D/C towers on average service less numbers of VFR than US class C services
3. All class C terminal areas in the US are radar covered
4. Australia has no such radar saturation [except at the primaries]
5. Because of the comparatively less VFR activity at Class D and D/C locations in Australia, ATC can provide non-radar ICAO D and C services without saturation

The bottom line:-

A. Australia does not need US Class C, radar equipped, Tower and separate Approach and Departures staffing [average 30+ per terminal in the US] at regional [non-primary] ports
B. Australia does not need to force pilots [both IFR and VFR] in VMC to be 'primarily' responsible for 'see and avoid' as is the case in the US
C. Australia does not have the traffic/frequency saturation to necessitate the use of Class E [surveillance based or otherwise]
D. Australian industry cannot afford to use US Class D and C terminal area rules [due the associated ATM infrastructure required]
E. Without a similar investment in terminal area ATM infrastructure, the same radar based safety net [which Australia offsets by utilising third party active collision mitigation through ICAO D rules] used in the US would be absent in Australia, where [as already pointed out] large numbers of large RPT's operate
F. Australian industry can afford [for no extra cost above class E] to run regional tower based non-radar ICAO D and D/C instead

Both countries may claim ICAO compliance, the difference is the level and type of CTA/R service assets needed to achieve the desired sovereign legislated safety outcomes.

With those realities in mind, which of the two countries 'system safety' outcomes would you consider superior? and why?

Last edited by ARFOR; 11th Mar 2010 at 08:49. Reason: syntax, and clarification
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