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Old 10th Mar 2010, 21:36
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gadgetman
 
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I once again find it astonishing that when an individual speaks out opinions that aren’t shared by the majority on this forum the answer from most of you is angry and irrational responses.
Whilst you may see yourself as the lone voice speaking out against the howling mob, this really isn't the case. Just dismissing all other arguments as "angry and irrational" in fact merely shows how little attention you've actually paid to the thoughtful responses (well, some of them) posted.

As you put it yourself you are highly educated and intelligent people. Then you should also be able to discuss your disagreements in an educated and intelligent way.
Quit the patronizing tone. NOW. And pull you socks up and tuck your shirt in while you're at it.

I do understand that the utilities cap is inconvenient for those few of you who have a consumption that is above the new limit. This does however not mean that it is a breach of your contract. Your contract states that "The Company will pay rent, tax, all relevant cooking gas, electricity and water charges".
Congratulations, you've just highlighted the contradiction. Well done.

From a legal point of view relevant refers to normal consumption in the accommodation you are placed, and excessive luxury use is not covered by the contract. With the new cap EK has only formalized what was in the contract all the time, that only relevant consumption is covered. This view is shared by UAE lawyers and as a result not a contract breach.
And I can find 1000 lawyers willing to argue that facetious point with you. "Normal" is the word your point hinges on, which is sadly not in the contract signed. The word "ALL" is the word you need to focus on. "ALL" means everything, the lot, the whole shebang, the entirety AND the horse it rode in on. If this comple legalese is too difficult for you to comprehend, my 6 year old son can easily explain to you the difference between "normal" and "all".

Most of you were hired to EK when the world economy was booming, and Dubai was one of the hotspots on the globe. While Dubai's future still looks bright, there is no doubt in the fact that Dubai has severe challenges that needs to be overcome. It’s of course unfortunate that some employees feel that they haven't got everything they thought they would when signing up for the company.
IRRELEVANT. A contract in the civilized world is not up to negotiation just because the management screwed the pooch. Yup, the whole world, and DXB in particular got hit by the recession, but honestly, that aint our problem bud. If morale was higher, or employees were compelled to feel an ounce of compassion or loyalty for their company, you'd be amazed the sacrifices they'd have been willing to make. Sadly, EK management has literally NO understanding of the term loyalty do they.

EK try its best to live up to everyone’s high expectations,
cough, choke, hack.

but in the business climate that has existed the last years that has been and still is difficult at times. As you have stated yourself these complaints is not a breach of contract, and therefore not something that you can hold EK accountable.
umm, no. Ek directly breached the contract and is directly accountable.

As stated earlier EK understands that it needs to recruit more staff to create more flexibility and ensure further growth, and is as a result of this currently hiring new pilots, cabin crew and so on. EKs management is aware of that the current backup is thin and is taking measures to improve.
Good. Do something about it. You are failing in your job, and have been for some time. Improve your performance or resign. Now. for the good of the company you feel so strongly about.

It is every EK employee’s job and duty to do our best effort to ensure that the A/C is on route.
Good call. Why are you trying to run this company on a shoe string and use pilots to the point of illegality then? Such shoddy management will surely result in grounded planes as you have no room for any flexibility.

EK is in the business of moving people, and if we cannot do that in a good and flawless manner we will no longer have a business to work at,
so maybe you need to sort your ideas out.

much less talk negative about in internet forums. Your poor attitude and apparent unwillingness to help the company through a difficult time will not make things better.
Wake up. As said repeatedly, this negative talk on internet forums is a symptom, not a cause. Get that through your skull, and work out that you have much bigger problems than an anonymous internet forum to worry about. Guys bitching on here will get shouted down if they are full of crap or whining about nothing. When they are voicing the consensus of damn near everyone on the line and actually sitting in the sharp end of your moneymakers, you ought to realize that maybe you need to be looking at what has caused this. Stop being so nearsighted.

EK is in their recruitment work not trying to oversell what we can offer, and wants to create a realistic image of how life at EK will be.
Please review this statement with anyone who has joined in the last two years. Then review the deteriorating conditions and ask yourself if recruitment have been good enough to encapsulate this into their pitch.

Every day EK receives new highly qualified applications for different positions from all over the world which shows that what EK can offer is good enough and competitive enough to attract the new staff required to overcome current challenges and ensure further growth.
So what are you whining about then? You're getting enough suitable applicants or not?

EK is not heaven, but it’s certainly not hell either, and I think it’s sad that so many of you have such lack of respect for your own company and colleagues that you want to drag it into the mud through this forum.
Sigh. You don't get it do you. Ek isn't being dragged through the mud here, the levels of mud are merely being reported on.

Sort out the level of mud, and we'll get back to you.
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