I am pressed for time but would just like to respond quickly to the post of sick squid. Principally because, more or less, it seems to encapsulate the logic from those in the satisfied group.
My difficulty with your position is that it ignores many of the posts that have challanged this view. I would refer damp squid to (amongs others) the post #31 of clanger32 or my post #62 (para 2,3 and 4).
I would invite damp squid to address those points directly. (rather than just repeating the "well its all down to the members" line). I would be interested in hearing your reply.