Tim McLelland
Sirtoppamhat perhaps you misunderstood me? I don't think this would be the place to discuss the political abilities of either Portillo or Abbott. It's irrelevant what you or I think of them - my point was that they are both very experienced politicians who generally adopt almost diametrically opposing views on matters of policy. Therefore, when they both conclude that the carriers and F-35 are dead, we can also draw our own conclusions n'est ce pas?
No I didn't misunderstand the point you made at all. I think it is interesting that they have found something they agree on, but that doesn't make it any more valid a position in itself. The fact that these people are both 'professional politicians', if anything, reduces the force of their arguments.
STH