Absolutely agree with you hardcrud, but have to agree more with sober lark on that one point. Ultimately the passengers pay the airlines. If our salaries are too high and our ANSP isn't making a profit, there is the option to increase user charges as a result, and airlines could easily pass that on to Joe Bloggs. Just as MOL now appears to be threatening with his fares, due to increased costs in & out of Ireland...