gofor I don't quite understand what you were trying to say with your post. I am one of the few (very) lucky guys to have made it into a reputable Aussie airline on a 457 visa. I had to take a massive salary cut in the process, but have not been sorry for one second. My advice to anyone who gets a similiar opportunity is to grab it with both hands. All the Aussie pilots I work with daily have been very welcoming and very profesional (perhaps a little pedantic, but that's another story). I will certainly be applying for residency here in order to stay.