westendboy- well done you , first name terms with them all. Its sycophants like you who make the place a far less pleasant environment to work in now. As for your supercillious remarks about the north sea controllers , I was there when they were made and you have taken them completely out of context. May I suggest you show more loyalty towards your colleagues. They will still be around you when Paul , Mark , Simon etc. are gone. They may be good managers but by their nature are transient. You would do well to remember that and develop the respect for your ops room colleagues which you are sadly lacking. The days of crawling your way into management are slowly going which is about the only good thing about the brave new world which is NATS. Judging by your pprune name I dont get to work with you which can only be a good thing. I wouldnt like to have to trust you when the chips are down.