Chinook
John Blakeley - re speculation. We seem to be agreed at last that the key element in this long-running discussion is the decision of the crew to press on towards the Mull, or to turn away. You know my view, but if, as you seem to believe, there was some tenable reason why they did not turn away -distraction (both of them ?), engine problem, control restriction, oil on the widscreens, bird-strike etc (you recall them I'm sure), then how come the aircraft soon entered a climb profile, which, had they been on track, would have carried them over the crest of the hills with a couple of hundred feet to spare? And how was it that in the last few seconds of flight the crew were able to make extreme control imputs? But of course we have been here before John. JP