The industry is in a mess, we all know that a few hundred guys waiting for line training isn't going to make a difference either way, having said that, the cash they inject into the airlines, the salaries they don't take may just keep a few wheels on some wagons, but not many, maybe a few North African outfits, small Greek outfits and swell the coffers of the Hungarians. This forum keeps bashing the SSTR and Pay to Fly guys, what about the companies selling the Line Flying in the full knowledge the delay will be months and months. Apart from BMI in the UK I know of no Airline that delivers these product on time.. I hoped to be proved wrong? On the wider issue, the industry is now looking after itself.. GSM guys possible Qatar contracts, Monarch guys at Olympic, Sky Europe guys with TUI, even Ryanair doing their bit. What this does mean, of course, is the openings for the newbies are very very few and far between. Mind you, the Line training sellers won't tell you this!