Thanks for the replys. I have a question about the departure procedure? When IFR do you see a problem meeting the obstacle climb requirement of 650'/nm single engine? Is there any aircraft that can actually do that at a field elevation of 7000' and a decent load of fuel? I have heard many people have to wait until the mountains are totally unobscured to leave legally. Thoughts? Experience? Im trying to avoid having to fly to Colorado Springs or Pueblo to refuel.