john tullamarine
Cannot accept that an aircraft can spin without spin. Let's call it a deep stall instead.
Know of several deep stall losses in the UK during which many attempts were made to recover. Ossie Hawkins couldn't recover a Vulcan even after releasing the braking parachute. He survived the ejection.
John Baker did recover a HP Victor using the braking chute which was torn off in the process. He had entered a deep stall and some spinning after losing airspeed reference.