Time was we used to be able to get it as tight as possible at Gatwick. If you had free speed and could level at 2000', you could still be doing 250kts in a 737-200 at 10 miles, WITHOUT cheating and using speedbrake. Gear would have to be dropped smartly. Lovely and quick. Now it's 250 below10 and that's it. Taken all the fun away.