"Shame on Guv" - WHY? Everything he's posted has been informative and respectful. Why does every thread have to degenerate because a small group insist on hijacking the topic and accuse Guv of god knows what? There's been a terrible accident in PHC and even this it appears is being used as a pretext for some petty vendetta. Show some respect. Is this how all airline pilots behave? No wonder the industry is f***ed.