Flight deck CVR tapes are released to the public, why not ATC tapes?
What? I can't think of a CVR recording from a UK crash that's been released. I can't think of a Western one released or leaked since the 80s. Do you support the CVR recording of BAW038 being released to the public?
As far as I am concerned, my CVR recordings, which were meant to be totally private and only made use of if no pilots survived to tell the tale, can be subpoenad and published for the public's predilection. It stops there. I will not have a camera recording 'my office', including recording what could be the final moments of the pilots, for the greater entertainment of the guffawing public, because we all know such recordings will not remain private (as we were assured in the industry the CVR recordings would be- what became of that then?).
The AAIB/CAA principle certainly is that CVR recordings won't be released, it might even be law. You can't have on the one hand your complaints about the public listening and watching in on what you're doing, and on the other hand your seeming delight at being able to hear what ATC are doing during a crash.
I seriously resent your remark about 'incompetence'. You are indeed a fool. For a crew flying perfectly normally then crash a few seconds later under very stressful circumstances- you don't understand what you are talking about and I suggest you shut it!
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One big problem with realsing ATC and CVR tapes (after the ethical ones) is the issue of context. I'm sure you'd be the first person to attack the press for an ill-informed, ignorant and out-of-context analysis of the recordings. In fact you could imagine some tabloids spinning this recording to show a captain who not only got the callsign wrong, but was so incompetent that he transmitted the evacuation order over VHF.
I was clearly talking about tabloid spin!
Let me rephrase, the tabloids could quite easily suggest that the flight crew of BAW038 made mistakes, based upon a layperson's interpretation of the ATC tape. If such a suggestion were made in the press I predict that you would be one of the first to (rightly) condemn them. This alone is a strong argument to keep private ATC tapes.
This is the danger of releasing tapes to the public without context, be they CVR tapes or ATC tapes. I see no distinction between them, for the reasons I've outlined above; neither should be released.
Rainboe, you've twice mis-read my post and responded agressively where no agression was called for. I suggest you take time to read posts properly before posting in anger.