Viking101 - I have no doubt that we are dealing with people who are tricky and we must not be unwary. Nonetheless I do believe this is winnable without a strike. I disagree, incidentally, with the view that we should not accept a German contract less than the other European ones. Those contracts are living examples of a combination of a top union and amazing good fortune whereby the deals were done with a high Euro. They pay way more than the Uk contract and I would expect the German contract to be broadly in line with the UK one. As I say, I don't yet know enough to judge how good or bad the offer is. I want to see solutions like everyone else and i believe we will do so.