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Old 2nd Dec 2009, 06:28
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cityfan
 
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The insubordination continues even in your writing, IF you were a crew member!

A few things:

1) There is NO FAA action being taken against this Captain, so BoF is wrong.

2) The international FA crews at UAL are some of the worst in the industry and, as you can see from the attitudes, it does not take a rocket scientist to see that labor relations as a result of years of bankruptcy, cutbacks, and generally letting the FAs get away with murder, have not helped that any.

3) Not everyone is easy to get along with, and I have never suggested this Captain is either. However, we have ONE Captain at a time and UNLESS there is a SAFETY PROBLEM, then HE is in command at all times and HAS EARNED THE RESPECT that goes with the uniform.....maybe it was just not on the ONE SEGMENT BoF flew with him.

4) Notice the interactions with the FOs and the FAs....The entire interactions (from the FA perspective) is that the FOs came back to complain about the Captain. However, from the Captain's perspective, and from what ACTUALLY HAPPENED, it is clear that the Captain was bolstered by the input of the FOs, who were the ones that relayed the "food issue." the WHOLE situation, especially from BoF's perspective, smacks of insubordination and lack of respect for authority.

SO, we KNOW the aircraft landed in MIA and we KNOW the FAs and the Captain did not see eye to eye. Now, did he MAKE IT ALL UP or was there something substantive that happened? Did the FOs say, "No, Sir/Captain, YOU will be in ALOT of trouble if we divert over NOTHING!" Did the Purser leave in MIA? YES! Did anyone else (and there was ABSOLUTELY NO NEED FOR AN EXTRA FO FROM MIA TO ORD)? NO! No FOs got off the aircraft, just one FA.

Now, simply ask yourself a few even easier questions:

Has the Captain been fired? No!
Will the Captain be fired? No!
Has the FAA sought to sanction the Captain in ANY way? No!
Does the Captan have the discretion to act as he pleases within the bounds of safe operation, while being answerable for those actions? Yes!
Is he being forced to answer those actions? Yes!
Has this Captain had previous run ins with the company du to his strong union affiliation? Yes!
Does ANYONE think THAT might have ANYTHING to do with what the Captain is being forced to do before returning to the line? I DO, you decide for yourself!

Is the Purser some angel who is loved by all and the Captain some devil who is hated by all, as BoF would have us believe (weak d!ck captains and fos supposedly gossiping with some FAs about a fellow pilot! What BS!)? No!

SOMETHING DID HAPPEN AND THE FAS DO NOT LIKE WHAT IT WAS, BECAUSE IT SHONE THE SPOTLIGHT ON SOME OF THEM WHO HAVE A LACK OF RESPECT FOR AUTHORITY, ESPECIALLY CAPTAIN'S AUTHORITY.

WHETHER THE CAPTAIN WAS RIGHT OR WRONG, WHETHER IT COULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED A DIFFERENT WAY, OR EVEN SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED A DIFFERENT WAY, IS FOR THE COMPANY AND THE CAPTAIN TO WORK OUT, WHICH THEY ARE, WITH A JAUNDICED EYE IMHO....NOT A FA WITH AN AXE TO GRIND AGAINST PILOTS.


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