Here's to Piper and Grumman. Brian, it sure does make sense.
John, It's a great idea of yours to approach them, much better than my plan, I'll try. I am quite sure there's a page missing in the Beech manual I have (- scanned version).
With my colleagues advice:
Thereafter I looked for a reference to copyright in the ........and failed to find anything.
It wasn't too important what he based it on, the more important thing was that before using the information, I confirmed the statement by reviewing the manuals on hand. To many people just take someone's word for something. Regardless if he is a respected colleague, this I would never do. These were all older versions of Cessna manuals, unfortunately none of which I have access to anymore. I do have a C172S, and was sad to see, yes there is a copyright...
The 'POH' version, onboard the aircraft, IMHO is the AFM, because it's onboard, associated with the aircraft and normally approved by the local CAA in its entirety. Scanning through the one I have here for a C172S the only sections with FAA approved on the bottom is the limitations and supplements?
I do know CASA is very organised on these things, so I would really love to have some clarity with references on the AFM issue. ICAO calls the manuals POHs, describes the format etc (ex GAMA), most legal texts refer to it as Approved Aircraft (Airplane) Flight Manual. To avoid the concepts of the older versions - Owners Manuals, FCOMs, PIMs etc, isn't it better to refer to AFM and MOM to distinguish between an approved manual on board and a generic manual used in training? The latter being the one conscientious pilots are often looking for to do some background study in preparation for transition or type rating training.
Yes it was the E that I was trying to work out, Thanks!